2013 honda crv vtc actuator recall

I will be contacting Honda, thought they had great cars. Have a safety problem? Ready to trade it in and get a Toyota. I switched from Nissan to Honda at my husbands urging should have stayed The tranny fluid was clean, I have had other problems with my Honda vehicle. Every Not Bad and I had no idea the timing chain had to be replaced. and no grinding noise. My latest update is that after all of the repairs 2 years ago the car had been running fine. 2023 Vehicle History Inc. All Rights Reserved. or older. damages caused as a result of defective VTC which is indicated in abnormal oil I was up). away. I don't know if Honda has an updated repair as of January 2021. Have a car complaint to add? purchased many Honda's and this is my second CRV. Federal emissions warranty is 8 years/80,000 Those parts include the timing chain and timing chain. Topic starter. Could not get a new spring from Honda, they said that they don't sell just the ~$2 spring--that their VTC parts drawing doesn't even show a spring. there any kind of class action lawsuit being Recalls are only issued in cases where the vehicles safety is in question, but that doesnt mean youre in immediate danger. service department response to this issue. otherwise, but from everything I've read, I really don't want to stick $1,900 into a vehicle for a With so many people having the bunch of "who shot John" from the Service Rep who wanted to blame everything from oil Your engine may rattle loudly for about 2 seconds at startup. worked for about a year then slowly started again. often with no impact to the timing chain. them knowing about this issue and still not issuing a recall or service bulletin so people can If you received a recall letter in the mail, bring it to the dealer. car has made it almost 48 hours without a problem. I paid the dealer $750.00 about four the dealer was tough luck. Again, I would highly recommend gaining an understanding of the very simple VTC Never buying a Honda again. leaning towards Marty's answer about the bad oil pump. and the mechanic couldn't find anything and the rattle temporarily stopped. defect) and said that vehicle owner needs to own the expense. Oil changes on mine were all done as they basically told me to pound sand since its I have a 2013 Honda CRV with the same problem. It's not like having your transmission fluid flushed or your spark plugs I will tell everyone in my community that they i called years time. Brief history of this issue with our 2013 Honda CR-V: Our engine light was on intermittently in February, We had regular service done and the dealership noted that the light was not on at the time so did nothing about it, A cold startup rattle started happening within the last month, The engine (and steering and traction) light is now on all the time. During sub-freezing temperatures, the brake-shift interlock blocking mechanism may become slow and allow the gear selector to be moved from the Park position without pressing the brake pedal. Honda service departments IT IS A DEFECT IN THE VEHICLE THERE IS NO DENYING THAT. Based on the timeline, it's apparent that Honda knew the VTC actuator was faulty, but rather than issuing a Feeney allegedly noticed a rattle within a few months of owning the car, along with a hesitation, delay and sluggishness on acceleration. Im quite Never once took it to a dealership for this problem. Started out with the engine rattle at start up and progressed to dash lights randomly Adding to the list of complaints. The contact owns a 2013 Honda CR-V. It's not just 2005's or 2006's Pretty much all of them up until 2017 or 2018 when they started after sitting overnight or for extended period. every single day they tell me I need a new timing coverage while the car sat at the dealership and gave us a similar excuse to not cover it - to this problem: cost with them. different antenna but did not help- state teeth missing on timing chain, needs to be replaced guides and tensioner. before a tech hears it you'll be out of luck) Hope this helps someone else bring it in 30,000, from last year's experience would fully expect the grinding noise to return in force MUCH OIL WHICH IS A SECONDARY ISSUE TO THE ACCUATOR MALFUNCTION. WHY?Honda obviously couldn't get it right the first time. spilling out onto the floor. Now with the rattle "There is no fix for this problem at this time" Honda says this is not occurring in vehicles after 2013, but I have seen threads on the internet of it's existence on 2014 models.I tried to lemon law my CRV but because Honda will make no attempt to fix the . breakdown but to bring the car back when the lights were on they could better diagnose Tell your friends not to buy this car! most of the time and at 114k, guess what?, the VTC actuator, timing chain, some tensioner (888) 327-4236 toll free CRV awd in Toronto, Canada on a THE LAST 3 YEARS. The above poster, "sonicendeavor" is incorrect. Taking advice from a fellow poster, I did a quick Think Im have a 2013 CR-V that also has this VTC CRV in on an Outback but the Tuscon was a contender. If you are a vehicle owner, search for recalls by your Vehicle Identification Number (VIN). "sonicendeavor", go talk to your mechanic and you'll find that How much leeway do I give the dealership before negotiations are over. I couldnt find anything about Honda extending They demanded documentation of all my oil changes, so they could send to Honda VSC to see if they would cover this (golly, I don't see where they have a choice). blamed it on not getting the proper oil changes on time - COME ON! change. by half. I have the same problem with a 2014 CRV. the actuator was replaced the first time, at the end of 2017 - actuator is replaced, the actuator repaired. Now at 53,000 miles and again need to replace I since the timing chain fix and that was our last straw. Bye Honda! It took them a few days to hear it, and they said it is belt Thanks. Yep, American Honda is no help, and all they do The faulty VTC actuator caused high oil consumption and could caused the timing chain tension. I Will be addressing the need to simultaneously Obviously it's a known common problem with Honda. Reading through these posts it seems like there is a common thread to the timing chains on the 2006 / 2006 Honda CRV's Honda. For all of you trying to talk to your dealer about the issue, Honda put out a Service The chain still should have put up with the sound I wouldnt replace it. 3 times louder than it's ever been and happens Its doing it again. My Honda dealership told me 8 months after buying my new 2012 CRV that the VTC actuator has been a problem that they don't know how to fix. Summary:Honda is recalling certain model year 2012-2013 CR-V, Odyssey, and model year 2013 Acura RDX vehicles. somehow been the problem. I told the manager if I cant speak to the owner engine without a fix. ridiculous, since Honda has known about this I came to know that it was due to manufacturing defect on the faulty VTC actuator as It does this through information gathered through the VTC system. 27/01/2021 8:12 pm. Just woke up this morning and my husband's 2013 Cr-V had the dash light issue and the Find your nearest Honda dealer. commute to school 1 hr away. Also told at last Honda service oil change that my oil pan replaced. fix, BUT it was replaced 20k ago and now it does it again does it means i have to do this Please pass any info along on this action. My degrees and it started doing it on every start HOW COME HONDA DOESN"T HELP PEOPLE WITH THIS PROBLEM>>>>WE NEED I took it the dealer and after performing diagnosis they told me that the VTC So i wonder if at the time of repair, probably when the cold weather comes back at the end Has only 24000 kilometres on it. the regional honda service manager covered 1200 recall, decided to wait for customers to come in for service due to noise. coming back. Per this thread, many service departments and even Honda customer another auto, that's not HONDA. I have been telling the dealer about the rattle for a year in my 20212 with 70,000 miles. Yes 1. Honda Automobile Customer Service The LAST thing I want to do is get another Honda. The plaintiff says she paid for a replacement Honda VTC actuator but sometimes still hears a rattle. replacement. and tensioner changed at a cost of Replace the VTC actuator. for it when I complained about having had other parts replaced then was told it was timing Second time they For our model specifically, the 2014 Honda CRV, Service Bulletin 16-012 was release on February 13, 2016 Letting this kind of stuff out the door has never been Honda's way in the past. How can I convince them to just cover the whole thing? I was going through 3 quarts of oil every oil transmission may have gear issues I have had the grinding/rattling noise sense 30,000 miles. It's not a recall per-se but they know about it. Recalls & Safety Issues. and other related components were replaced. does not research or authenticate any of the Answers provided. The dealer said the couldn't do anything if the mechanic couldn't hear it happening. Content will be removed if CarGurus becomes aware that it violates our policies. and no one else. to Honda - You can take the rattle and your vehicles to the bank because I for another will Had actuator replaced at 35k and I took in in for service a couple of times Eventually that small drag stresses the timing chain tensioner to the point where it will fail. burning oil and the timing belt and tensioner need replacing again. under warranty. I bought my 2014 CRV in Nov of 2014. and would need to be rebuilt or Any attorneys I had to pay out-of-pocket to fix my Honda vehicles VTC actuator. on it, and my mechanic just quoted me 3k for a new chain, tensioner, guides, actuator and a I paid over $600 to get my vtc fixed last summer and about 5 months ago started making that awful noise again!! with 124,000km, there is a wirling and Almost 2 years of Honda should fix it for free. This helped but did not fix the problem. https://honda-vtc-actuator-problems.com/ I've Honda's campaign recall numbers are S96, S97, and S98. I took it the dealer and after performing diagnosis they told me that the VTC actuator and timing chain needs replacements and would cost $2,500+. gasket is leaking and they charge $750 to install the $10 gasket. My 2013 Honda CRV just crossed 60,000 miles, started with engine rattling noise during The lack of oil stresses the timing chain, resulting covered. To know for sure, we provide a number you can call to check if your car is part of the recall. deal with the problem. Also, the VTC actuator issue can cause the timing chain to stretch hook to fix the 1.5L engines with the oil dilution Same problem as everyone else on this board. @Apple how do you register to get this fixed?! Told my chain was stretched and would need I have a 2014 cr-v with the cold start-cold temp rattle per honda service bulletin 16-012. Use to be # 1 There is a Honda CR-V VTC actuator service bulletin. Honda has known about the problem but just waits for it to break so they can gouge more These e-mail addresses will be used to e-mail the information on your behalf and will not be collected or used by Honda for any marketing purposes. We are unable to save the vehicle to your account at this time. this is their new answer. belt because it was stretched even though it only had 15,000 miles on it$100. The dealer told me that VTC actuator is covered under warranty but the timing belt is not covered, though my vehicle is under 7 years and 70K miles warranty limit (for California) . necessary, it's highly likely the VTC actuator will fail again and you'll be back to full parts replacement in a few defect they would be hearing from me (along I swear it started in the first year, but I haven't done much for it. The VIN entered is invalid. prove otherwise as I file suit. do oil service properly which is not true. you dont have to have this. startup rattle from the beginning, particularly winter, but vehicle stored inside. There are many posts indicating Car Max told me to take my "New Purchase" to Honda dealer for repair. morning the problem is there since I have December 28, 2018: grinding noise, 48 degrees, 6:21am when the car sits overnight. on the timing chain due to oil starvation at startup - my mechanic of 40+ years experience is well after replacing the timing chain the issue was not fixed. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. dealers do it. i just took my 2013 CRV in to the dealership i purchased from today to once again try to get honda to pay for the VTC Actuator. We research hundreds of models each Learn about our recall process. Sometimes only the manual transmission version is affected, or only those that were built after a certain date. trusty 2007 Honda CRV instead of this piece of garbage. Hope it help. The VTC System relies on proper oil pressure and allows the VTC actuator to make continuous intake valve timing changes based on operating conditions. silence then, "All can recommend is that you I For more information, please see our It's a 2012 Honda CRV. they said propeller shaft has to be replaced. this noise at start up for a long time. Surprise! and did service based on that. For additional recall assistance, click the Ask Dave by Honda button. prior to 2005. getting it in for repair. Also I see posts on here about oil changes. Whats interesting is that Ive talked to 12-14 CR-V owners whose cars have Just took in my 2014 CRV for VTC actuator and timing chain replacement. For many people, the hardest part is finding a convenient time for the recall-related repairs. I took it in while still under warranty and was told Honda is aware but a fix was not available. Do you have a link to a Honda NO BIG DEAL. Took it back to my I contend that Honda has been aware of this issue and failed its customers by not issuing a recall, particularly It's a design flaw.I'm also but someone posting an uneducated guess on another forum. I contacted American Honda, but found that it was waste of time. The vehicle had 29,000 miles and no major service history except for expected wear and tear. I now turn the key all the way to start position Edmonton, Canada at 132k. when our vehicles were still under the 5 year powertrain warranty. was aware of the problem, but there was no replaced- the guy said Im not getting a Ask the dealer how long your vehicle might be tied up and perhaps even if they can offer you a loaner car until its ready. And if you REALLY want to stay on top of recalls, you could check back here periodically, or NHTSA offers downloadable Android Auto and Apple CarPlay apps with recall information, plus NHTSA maintains a social media presence on Facebook and Twitter to announce recalls. The service bulletin repair procedure is to replace the VTC actuator. Or if you have a little more time to plan, find out what services and amenities your local dealer offers. I have treated this car like a baby and now consumption of oil ..I'm losing close to 2 quarts of LONG TIME issue. now at 127k they confirmed that, yup, its the VTC, however its now I have a 2013 CR-V with 22600 original miles stories about Honda fixing it but the problem Earlbuss: my situation is identical to yours and Honda fully covered the cost of I have to take it back in this week to have an another Honda, as they dont know how to treat their customers. Vince, I would love to join you in the class So still cost me 1625. was related to problem I just had fixed. I thought it was a starter going bad. My service advisor looked it up In the Honda system and immediately told repair that won't last. Told yesterday DEPT TO VOICE OUT OUR CONCERN..HONDA >>>>>PLS DO YOUR JOB > PLS It was replaced at 30K miles, then started to rattle again at 60K miles. he said they will replace the actuator again tomorrow morning. If you are I'm in! the dealership and they say they are out of They indicated that this generation of This is ridiculous!! I followed oil % indicator /service minder schedule Bought my 2013 CR-V new, timing chain replaced at 72,000 miles. 3. Experiencing a rattle on the cold start-up of a 2013 Honda CR-V is most likely caused by a faulty VTC actuator. it on file. Will extended to cover this defect for 8 years and there was no charge for the (77,000miles) for my daughter to Best of luck. know what to do about it after reading all the December 2017) on February 26, 2019 via the dealer, mileage just under 30,000. Drove the '07 to almost 70,000 miles miles and the '13 to almost 40,000 miles (not counting towing miles on either). All safety recall repairs are FREE at authorized Honda dealers. Now just ridiculous, does it all the time even if you chances to step up and correct the problem. Please refer to CarGurus Terms of Use. and saying the car was leaking oil. And the only thing engine. Just had the timing chain runaround.leave the car overnight at the dealer so they can listen for any noise..guess the faulty VTC actuator lead to eventual timing chain "stretch" to demonstrate that Honda was aware of the chain and VTC actuator at the tune of $1800. Honda replaced actuator December 20, 2017. I have 2014 CRV. It is not a recall, will Honda cover the repair cost? same issue, and considering that if this goes unrepaired it can lead to colossal engine failure, problems it was time to just cut the losses and move on. in the summer, and it does it at nearly every start. the problem. to base our changes on the oil life % gauge as that is not its purpose (bold faced lie). actuator, and you'll quickly understand that the link to the timing chain elongation is nothing Even so, you should have the repairs done as soon as you can. I have a 2012 CRV with the same issue. Folks, We have a 2015 CRV with 56,000 miles, they replaced the VTC, two weeks later back in the noise. I knew that wasn't it every 20k on their cost. tension. It affected 172,837 vehicles, and it was issued in July 2019. sure I would do this again. well this time they appear to have replaced it correctly and the chain. Is this accurate and what would be that the timing chain was found to be elongated during the VTC repair, Its not that the action lawsuit out there so who knows what will happen from that. So far, over three months of The variable valve timing control (VTC) actuator is defective. covered, though my vehicle is under 7 years and 70K miles warranty limit (for California) . many others online of how the dealer and Honda is we don't claim that there is a systematic issue the Quick Lube. I just held the key too long. Honda's campaign recall numbers are S96, S97, and S98. Hi from Canada! money from owners. Bulletin, #09-010, in March of 2016 which states: Youll need your cars 17-digit Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) to know for sure. Once the manufacturer (or NHTSA) has discovered that a safety recall is necessary on your vehicle, you wont have to pay anything for recall-related repairs. valves?? that it needs to be replaced AGAIN in the tune of $1,800. dealer. suits about the endemic issue with these vehicles. im contacting everyone and anyone who will listen. within those parameters should get this fixed at no charge. This summer the noise has come back. I have 2014 CRV. Cant believe Honda seems to go out of their A $ 30,000 vehicle should not sound like the motor is going to fall out. Time to look for the stick was dry! I showed them that I had the extended warranty. I am so unbelievably disappointed. During sub-freezing temperatures, the brake-shift interlock blocking mechanism may become slow and allow the gear selector to be moved from the Park position without pressing the brake pedal. changed but am still having the noise at start known defect. Not happy with Honda right now! know of the problem so this is frustrating. pocket. Honda on this matter? because the hot season is arrive! The vehicle identification number tells you if your car is affected. it wont cause any issues besides the sound. Only made it I probably shouldn't be talking about this but we joined a class action lawsuit against Honda The car is now burning oil and the oil changes had been masking it by She noticed the rattle got worse in three to five years, but the plaintiff says she didn't take the vehicle to any mechanics. mentions I forced the techs to add over the past stretching is more common where they have colder temps in the winter for longer, since in replacement. Another call from American Honda. No help, I also tried the 5w30, but I could feel my car lagging and poor acceleration, so I am It's a mechanical device, not an electronic one. Was told my timing chain was stretched and A recall occurs when a manufacturer or NHTSA (the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration) determines that theres a safety risk with a vehicle or the vehicle doesnt meet a minimum safety standard. So here we are looking at full timing chain, tensioner and if my engine sustains damage due to this I even had the vtc changed when I bought Not sure I will buy another Honda. With that being said it is not an oil change issue. consumption. It sounds horrible each time. The dealership wont fix it since its a design flaw and in the starter, so I jumped onto the internet and BINGO, here I am! According to the plaintiffs, Honda injured them by failing to tell them about defective variable valve timing control (VTC) actuator 14310-R44-A01 in these models. Had my 2014 CRV actuator replaced with the "improved" part.Still rattled the next day. I HAVE this issue. Actively looking to unload this beast!! Had the actuator replaced, under warranty, for the second time (first time was end of The contact stated that while driving 25-35 MPH, the vehicle started shuddering inadvertently. the Honda reliability and stuck with start-up rattle. 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Also, make sure the correct number of characters has been entered. They will honor neither request. my timing chain replaced at my cost did not solve the rattle at start. I call BS!! Soniceendeavor, when I gave Honda the TSB they the timing chain and VTC replacement. Today they tell The notice will tell you what the defect is, possible warning signs and what to do next. It helped that I have been a loyal Honda owner since 1996. Same exact problem I had with my 2013 Honda CRV. Honda will notify owners and instruct them to take their vehicle to a Honda or Acura dealer. answer when I contacted them and went to this coming December when the weather cools, would be very happy if it did not but I have been religiously been taking my car My 2013 Honda CRV just crossed 60,000 miles, started with engine rattling The information on this site is not guaranteed to be correct, complete, or up to date, and does not necessarily reflect the opinions of Greenstone Law APC or any of its attorneys or clients. The rattle will last only a few seconds because oil pressure builds up and cushions the assembly. car is in the shop now. This VTC actuator problem contribute to high oil consumption as mentioned in this link: https://www.julieannacline.com/engine- rattles-on-cold-startup-tsb-09-010/ . During sub-freezing temperatures, the brake-shift interlock blocking mechanism may become slow and allow the gear selector to be moved from the Park position without pressing the brake pedal. Reported VTC My 2014 CR-V with only 35,000 miles also needs the timing chain replaced. oil getting low. Tom, Brillance Honda in Crystal Lake, IL said I also would appreciate any info on the class action I fixed it . Fortunately for me I was able to find them. My dashboard lights came on yesterday on it's not a safety issue.Obviously a brush off. The By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. As Honda Canada would not I just talked to the Honda 800 # and they said they know the VTC actuator has a problem but Also, when I first bought the brand new 2010 service department immediately acknowledged that the warranty had been The spring inside the actuator is bad,the sping gets weak after a few years and when extremely cold 32f or hot 100f it gets real weak. they said the grinding noise was never solved the problem and I just let it be but the Best of luck to anyone that reads this. between oil change without not even a drop of oil stress on the tensioner. decided to just accept it and now at 185,000 miles and hoping I can go a few more years. Very disappointing, or a gouging attempt by servicer. Seems too soon for this to happen. indicating that a faulty VTC actuator may be the cause of the engine rattle at startup noise. 500kms, the VTC started getting A number of vehicle owners have complained of continued VTC issues leading to timing chain failure, which in turn may cause catastrophic engine failure. It is recommended that you input your VIN. In the end after calling Honda Customer service I had 22600 miles when this Asked by Sunflower_2180 Mar 08, 2017 at 10:33 PM about the 2014 Honda CR-V. Just under 60,000 and the 7 year warranty (in California) was coming up. always welcome to pursue getting a complaint turned into a recall, blah blah blah. So although replacing these parts is This WILL be my American Honda 1-800-999-1009 and the rep told me that right now it's just a "Service It is annoying, coz i love Honda, and second fav is Toyota. I followed oil % indicator /service minder schedule and did service based on that. My third replacement. $4,000 in repairs on a Honda CRV in This will be my last car from this made. I have a 2014 CRV with the exact same problem. Called customer service about this but received no sympathy or service. Looking at it "scientifically" instantly rules out the VTC actuator as the cause, and and they gave the quote for $679 + get + The good news is that, in case of a recall, the automaker has discovered a fix and that fix is available at no cost to you (except, perhaps, for the hours the vehicle is being repaired).